View previous topic :: View side by side topic | Author | Message | Angultra Regular Fellow memberJoined: 09 Dec 2001 Posts: 61 Location: Toronto, Canada | Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:56 pm Postal service subject field: New F.Due east. Olds instruments - Any good? | | | I'thousand considering a new horn purchase, and I know the Olds series many years ago (Ambassador-Special-Super-Studio-Recording) had a very skilful reputation. I as well know that they changed easily only the new instruments are all the same being made nether the Olds label. Does anyone know if the "new line" of Olds instruments are whatever good? The website is below. Detect that they no longer utilize labels like "Ambassador" for their trumpets and cornets, only various model numbers. If anyone has played any of these instruments, please share your experiences. http://www.feolds.com/mainPages/products.htm | | Back to top | | | bgwbold Heavyweight Member Joined: 19 January 2003 Posts: 1405 Location: tejas | Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: | | | My understanding is that the only matter the new horns have in common with the old ones is the proper name. No tooling, no mutual employees, etc. The new owners must have acquired the name and the new horns do not have much of a following, as far as I know. I don't know who actually articles them at present. They have apparently been congenital past several different manufacturers during their recent history. Maybe someone else has owned one, but I have not fifty-fifty seen 1, except for sale on eBay. Mike | | Back to meridian | | | VM Trumpet Heavyweight Fellow memberJoined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 566 Location: Redlands, CA | Posted: Thu January 06, 2005 4:33 pm Post subject field: | | | My schoolhouse ordered five "new" F.East. Olds (not certain what model) for rental purposes. For the horn aeshetically: They came with a trigger for the first valve slide (dainty... not for me, but overnice feature). The valves a pretty darn good, but every in one case in a while in that location can exist a mysterious example of desultory stickage. Fifty-fifty with liberal oiling. It isn't a common occurence, simply perhaps something you might desire to factor into your position. The third valve slide moves well in one case the grease is worked in real well. The silver becomes very "muddy" and loses its original luster and is very hard to get it back. Those, ahemm, "pearl inlays"... Yeah I think every horn has lost atleast one within the first year, some two. It looks and feels really bad if they aren't institute and re-glued. Every bit for the playing: I'm not going to comment very much because I oasis't played much on information technology (I don't rent one). For me, it is a meaty (maybe "tight" is a discussion that fits?) blow, but it does get a pretty sweet sound out of information technology. The usual intonation tendencies are in that location (sharp D, C#, flat D,Due east-apartment, E...). It is classified as an intermediate model and rightly so... -VM Trumpet _________________ Bb: Yamaha 8310Z C: Yamaha 6445GHSII Picc: Yamaha 9830S Kanstul BMV ane 1/2C/ten, W3S/RZR, Yamaha 11B4 | | Back to elevation | | | tom turner Heavyweight Member Joined: xi Nov 2001 Posts: 6648 Location: USA | Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:36 pm Mail subject area: | | | Hi, The great lines of Olds and Reynolds were purchased by Norlin in 1964, where the models were streamlined and eventually pretty much merged, except in name and trim. By about 1980 the two bang-up companies were no more than, and Norlin shut 'em down FOREVER. In the '90s another firm (P.J. LaPlaca) acquired rights to use the Olds "proper name." The new line of "Olds" horns were and then produced for LaPlaca by the Schenkelars-Brekoo manufacturing plant in Holland. Hmmmmm . . . Today I hear the "Olds" trumpets are made nether contract with Blessing, and take naught in mutual with the quondam ones . . . except they are stamped "Olds." The original Olds instruments of the 1930s through the mid-1960s were truly great horns that stood toe-to-toe with the finest horns fabricated. The Olds Recording, Super Recording . . . and the Reynolds Contempora and Argenta trumpets were truly fine horns. Sincerely, Tom Turner | | Back to top | | | mheffernen5 Heavyweight MemberJoined: 22 Mar 2004 Posts: 637 Location: Iowa (2nd largest metropolis of IA is CR) | Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: | | | OK, Fe Olds at present days is made by the Blessing visitor. That much I know from reading the net forums. I don't know much nigh Blessing either... 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I teach band and am impressed with the quality and sound of the Silverish Flair. In fact, I even bought 1 for my own son. _________________ 2019 Yamaha 8335 II Xeno 1961 Conn 36B Connstellation | | Back to acme | | | Skaket03 New Fellow memberJoined: 20 November 2003 Posts: 9 | Posted: Friday Jan 07, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: Intermediate is Probably Right | | | I agree with the previous respondent on this thread who said that the new Olds are probably correctly labeled equally "intermediate" level. I am not as knowledgeable or skilled as most readers hither considering I am only a comeback role player later on 22 years out of high schoolhouse band. Last Dec 2003 I decided to start up on trumpet again and went looking for a new trumpet in the $500 (US dollar) price range. Back in the quondam days I owned a Martin Magna. Then I wanted a beginning valve trigger and the lever-type water keys. Therefore I looked around online and saw the Olds NL10MS at WWBW.COM. It is also seems available at a adept price at www.interstatemusic.com. So I bought the trumpet and accept been taking weekly private lessons with a very experienced pro thespian and teacher. He tried my horn out several times over the past year and he said information technology slots well, is good enough for me now, just he thinks the horn is a chip heavy in regard to weight. That is, compared to his Schilke. However, when he does occassionally play mine, he sure can make information technology sound good, loud, and even scream if he wants it too. Overall, I am happy with my horn right at present, the toll was good for me, and the other reason is that I didn't desire a "pre-owned" horn because I was always grossed-out and felt discomfort about using a horn that some other guy had spit into for many years. Probably a stupid thought, simply I just wanted something new, reasonably priced, and had the features that I wanted. Anyway, I recommend the Olds NL10MS to you. -Skaket03 | | Back to top | | | Brandish posts from previous: | | | You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum Yous cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum | Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group |
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